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Cheltenham League Meetings CHELTENHAM ASSOCIATION FOOTBALL LEAGUE Minutes of the Management Committee Meeting at the Victory Club Cheltenham on Wednesday 7th September 2005 at 7-15 pm Attendees: G Cook, D Barrett, J Crowther, R Attwood, N Oram, L Fisher,
J Hunt, B Hill, G.Morrison, Apologies: A.Stiley, T Onions Minutes of the meeting held on Wednesday 27th July 2005 were read and accepted Matters Arising from the minutes. Email from AC Olympia appealing against the fine imposed upon them at the meeting of July 27th for failing to respond to League Correspondence. AC Olympia claim that the message notifying them of the release of fixtures was sent to the wrong email address. This matter was considered and it was noted both that the appeal had been lodged with the League in excess of 7 days after the original decision, contrary to League Rule 15(b), and also that an appeal fee of only £5 had been forwarded, contrary to League Rule 15(d). In light of this, and the other facts that were presented to the committee, it was unanimously decided to deny the appeal. The General Secretary reported that no progress had yet been made on the Charity Cup Donation form but that this will be ready for the clubs meeting on September 28th. Correspondence: Reported for Discussion: Email from Phoenix United expressing their dismay at the decision that
was taken by the Management Committee at the July meeting to deny them
permission to postpone their matches on September 2nd and September 7th. Email from Bredon expressing dissatisfaction with the League's decision
not to allow them to postpone their matches on October 8th purely because
England will be playing a World Cup Qualifier on that date. Email from Jim Hughes, secretary of Belmore Jags, in testimony and support
of the application of Linda Wilson to become the League's Honorary Historian Email from Endsleigh stating that they had received a request from Belmore
Jags, asking that the Div 1 game between the two teams in Div 1 on September
1st, which is scheduled to be a Belmore Jags home game, is reversed. Letter from the GFA informing the League that it has been fined £20
for failing to supply September Referee Assistant Nominations to Mr K
E Fry by the required date. Email from Gas Green listing those players who had appeared on the CDP2
form, because they owed money to Gas Green, who had now repaid their debts Email from Smiths Athletic with regard to the cancellation of their Division
Two fixture with Star FC Reserves on Friday, September 2nd. Smiths state
that they were informed at 4.30 pm that the officially appointed referee
had become unavailable and that they called the game off at 4.45 pm having
failed to find a replacement. Before proceeding with correspondence, Mr Glenn Morrison was asked to leave the room Report from Referee S Jacques regarding the circumstances and conditions
in which Newton Heath hosted Winchcombe Town in Division One on Thursday,
September 1st, and also the undesirable attitude adopted by the Newton
Heath team throughout the game to both himself in particular and the game
in general. The report also deals with a dismissal and the flashpoint
that resulted in the dismissal. The report is accompanied by the two additional
reports filed relating to the disciplinary action taken during the game
against Newton Heath players and concludes with the referee stating that
he has no desire to be allocated to Newton Heath's matches again in the
future. It was felt by the meeting that most of the matters raised by Mr Jacques
in his report, which was also copied to the GFA, would be the subject
of imminent consideration by the County Association. Therefore, it was
felt to be inappropriate for the League to deal with these matters until
such time that it had received notification of the result of the GFA's
dealings. Email from Newton Heath informing the League that they inadvertently
played a player who had not signed on in the Division One match against
Winchcombe Town on Thursday, September 1st, 2005 Subsequent to this decision, Mr Glenn Morrison rejoined the meeting Copy of a Newsletter produced by Charlton Kings giving encouraging indications that the club is now functioning on a firm footing with its new committee Before continuing, Mr Peter Newcombe and Mr Bob Overington were asked to leave the meeting, in deference to their involvement with Hatherley Rangers FC Email from Dynamos explaining the reason for the postponement of the
Division One game between themselves and Hatherley Rangers on September
6th. The appointed referee failed to turn up and both teams felt unable
to continue due to the state of the pitch. Correspondence Notified to the Meeting but not discussed Email from Kings giving notice of the fact that their secretary will
be away from 17/09 to 26/09. Steve Hall on 01242 260598 or 07818 014667
will be the contact during this time Applications for the Post of League Honorary Historian The League had received two applications from persons interested in becoming
the Honorary Historian and both of these persons had been invited to attend
the meeting to discuss the matter further. Linda Wilson was not in attendance at the meeting. The Secretary was asked to make contact with Miss Wilson to ascertain both the reasons for her absence and, also, whether or not she was still interested in the position of League Historian. Steve Mynett The Chairman introduced Steve Mynett and informed the meeting that he
had first indicated an interest in the position of Honorary Historian
with the Cheltenham League at the end of the Annual General Meeting. He
was asked to explain his interest in the position and gave the answer
that he had a keen interest in football, was involved in the running of
two local sides, both on Saturday and Sunday, and that he was a keen historian
in general terms. He stated that it was his aim to produce a book that
would cover the history of football in Cheltenham from the inception of
the League in 1899 right up to the current day. Mr Mynett was informed that enquiries still had to be made of the other candidate for the position and that he would be informed of the Committee's decision in due course. Following Mr Mynett's departure, it was agreed that a sub committee should be formed to interview Linda Wilson should it transpire that she is still interested in the position. It was agreed that Mr G Cook, Mr N Oram, Mr B Overington and Mr John Crowther should sit on this committee and that it should endeavour to meet with Miss Wilson before the next committee meeting on September 28th. Rule Offences: The following clubs have been fined in accordance with rule 2B - non payment of Annual Subscription by July 31st: Belmore Jags (3 teams - fine £60), Bishops Cleeve (2 teams - fine £40), Dynamos (1 team - fine £20), Falcons (1 team - fine £20), Naunton Park (2 teams - fine £40), Northleach Town (2 teams - fine £40) The following clubs have been fined in accordance with rule 5h i) Late Payment of Invoices: St Marks (invoice 45, £15 due 15/08/05, paid 24/08/05), Falcons (invoice 42, £15, due 15/08/05, paid 17/08/05), Northleach Town (invoice 40, £60, due 15/08/05, paid 26/08/05), Phoenix United.(invoice 37, £15, due 15/08/05, paid 18/08/05 but letter had no stamp so add £1.20 postage) Rowanfield United (invoice44, £143.01, due 31/08/05 paid 02/09/05) The following clubs have been fined in accordance with rule 8F - non payment of fees due for Registration Books by July 31st: Fine £15 Belmore Jags, Bishops Cleeve, Dynamos, Falcons, Naunton Park, Northleach Town The following clubs have been fined in accordance with rule 8Q - playing an ineligible player: 3 Points deducted: 01/09/2005 - Div 1 Newton Heath The following clubs have been fined in accordance with rule 10f: For breaking a fixture: Fine £15 and 3 points deducted: 02/09/2005 - Div 2 Smiths Athletic, Div 3 Tewkesbury YMCA In considering this matter, the submission from Smiths Athletic, as detailed in correspondence, was taken into account. After due deliberation, it was decided that there was no mitigation and Smiths Athletic were found to be guilty of a transgression of rule 10(f) as charged. The following clubs have been fined in accordance with rule 13j - failure to send teamsheets with official Referees card. Fine £5: 01/09/2005 - Div 1 Tewkesbury YMCA, Belmore Jags, Newton Heath, Div 3 Northway, Gas Green, Div 5 Northleach Town. 02/09/2005 - Div 2 Cheltenham Saracens, Bredon The following clubs have been fined in accordance with rule 14b - withdrawal of a team after the AGM. Fine £50: Shipton Oliffe The following clubs have been fined in accordance with Charities Cup
rule 2A - non payment of entrance fees by July 31st: Fine £20 Belmore
Jags, Bishops Cleeve, Dynamos, Falcons, Naunton Park, Northleach Town Fixtures John Hunt, the League's Assistant Secretary, reported that there had been a relatively satisfactory start to the League season, although it was disappointing that there had been a number of games without referees and that this had lead to a number of cancellations. There had also been one or two rearrangements due to the preliminary round of the County Cup. Mr Hunt was handed a copy of the draw for the next round of the county cups, all of which are due to be played on a date that has been left free of fixtures. Club Player Debts The League Secretary informed the meeting that, in total, debts amounting to in excess of £1000 had been reported to the League via the Club Player Debts system. The names of players who owed money to the 5 clubs who had utilised the League's CDP1 form had been circulated to all clubs on the CDP2 form. All clubs had been made aware of the fact that anyone whose name appeared on the CDP2 form would not be eligible to be registered for the new season until such time that the League had been notified that their debt had been discharged. The Secretary also told the meeting that he felt that the level of debt that had been reported emphasised the worthiness of the scheme. Since the release of the CDP2 form, Gas Green had informed the League that the debts owed by 11 players that they reported had been repaid.
Once again, it was hoped that all clubs would take advantage of the opportunity that was presented by the season's first club's meeting, to meet with League Officials and express their views. The format would remain the same as at previous meetings, with various officers providing reports in addition to any particular areas of interest or concern. Clubs would be asked, through the Newsletter, to contribute agenda items as they saw fit. The remainder of the season's allocation of result cards would be distributed at the meeting, along with handbooks and charity cup donation forms.
Mr John Crowther informed the meeting that a referees course had started at the same time as this meeting in the Victory Club and asked that the details of the next course, due to start on November 22nd, be included in the League's Newsletter. This was agreed. Mr Crowther also informed the meeting that Metal Hooks on goal posts had now been entirely outlawed. This was duly noted. It was noted by the meeting that it seemed as if there had been difficulties with referees over the first four playing days of the season. It was acknowledged that the end of the holiday period, England Internationals and the rescheduling of Cheltenham Town matches may have influenced this and it was agreed to monitor the situation over the coming month. Mr Phil Tustain reported that he would be away from 24th September to 1st October, as will Dave Lewis, the alternative contact for Bishops Cleeve FC. During this time, the point of contact for this club will be Will Pember, who's telephone number is 01242 673800
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